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Keyword searches are revealing to me that people have found this site due to their searching terms such as: Why Christians Vibrate or Do Christians Vibrate

And indeed vibrating (and/or shaking) IS being taught, in Church circles, as something that Christians do.

Quoting CHE AHN’s Harvest Rock (in Pasadena, CA) own manual it reads:

 

The Baptism In Water and Baptism In The Holy Spirit
Getting Started Series II

Point 2 A: The Facts Concerning Baptism In the Holy SpiritLine 3 c: You have a manifestation of his presence, e.g., laughter, shaking, falling, etc …

Line 5: You don’t have to speak in tongues as a sign that you have been baptized, but it is something that you should want. …
SCREEN SHOT BELOW
The BOTTOM OF THE SHEET READS:

“CELL LEADERS QUESTIONS” …

implying to me, that this is a Leaders Sheet which has been posted on-line.

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May I point out TWO erroneous teachings in this one section regarding the Baptism of the Holy Spirit:

Point 1 – NO WHERE in the entire Bible, does it teach that a person will SHAKE, or LAUGH, or FALL DOWN, when one is Baptized in the Holy Ghost! No where. Yet this hand out states this is a FACT that will happen.
Point 2 – When reading through the Book of Acts, the EVIDENCE that new Believers were baptized in the Holy Ghost was because they SPOKE IN TONGUES. Read through Acts: example: Acts 2:4, 10:45-47, 19:6.
Now, I’m not writing this particular post to debate Speaking in Tongues.
I read in Acts that it speaking in tongues is evidence that one is Baptized in the Holy Spirit. I read it. I believe it. BUT CHE AHN DOES NOT BELIEVE the Book of Acts AND actually teaches the opposite AND adds to the Word of God by stating that evidence of being baptized in the Holy Spirit is something that is not even found in the Word of God! (ie: shaking, laughing or falling down)
So, saints. Are we students of the WORD, or do we prefer fun experiences? 
If the Bible doesn’t teach that Christians will VIBRATE, then why should any Christian we sit under teachers who teach that Christians do vibrate!?
And if these teachings ARE found in the New Age religion, the Occult, and other False Religions, then why should Christians allow such practices in our churches? Or why should Christians partake of such practices?  And why in the world, should Christians not be upset that churches are teaching this?
Below I have posted LINKS showing that other “religions” do teach shaking and vibrating.
And remember:  the Bible DOES NOT teach it.
NEW AGE see HERE, and HERE, and HERE, and so on.
KABALAH see HERE and HERE and HERE
BUDDHISM see HERE
OCCULT see HERE and HERE
SHAMMANISM see HERE and HERE
How about in WICCA see HERE or WITCHES see HERE
Are these enough LINKS to show everyone that other religions … false religions … VIBRATE!
Yet, I am not able to find one Scripture which teaches that God vibrates, or that we vibrate, or that we vibrate to be one with Him, etc., as many of the New Apostolic Reformation teachers are teaching.
PLEASE saints! Stick to the Word of God as Truth and not experiences!
Search the Scriptures. Weigh all experiences and all new teachings against the Bible!
By doing such you will show yourself “approved” unto God; a trustworthy workman, who won’t be ashamed before God.
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Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth
(2 Timothy 2:15)
Your word is truth
(John 17:17)
God is spirit, and His worshipers must worship in spirit and IN TRUTH
(John 4:24)
Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
(Acts 17:11)
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Note:

There ARE Scriptures which tell of TREMBLING and SHAKING in God’s presence, due to fear (Mark 16:8, Habakkuk 3:16, Acts 7:32, etc) but I have not found ONE Scripture depicting the VIBRATING of Christians in God’s presence when worshiping or praying.  I have not found ONE.

And it is SCRIPTURE that we should be holding firm to, for:

…the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD
– John 1:1

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Why are “Christians” taking worldly teachings (at best – satanic teachings, at worst) and bringing them into the Church?
Or are you actually being duped by a Wolf-In-Sheeps-Clothing
if you listen to these teachings?
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Is Jesus Christ GOD?

The Scriptures below show us that indeed He is.

Compare

Revelation 22: 20He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”  Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

with

Zechariah 14:3Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west … Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

compare this with

Jude 14 – “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way …

and compare this with

Revelation 19: 11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him,

Note:   the Lord Jesus Christ is shown in Scripture to be “the Word of God” – John 1:1 and is shown to be the One returning to rule the Earth; however Zechariah is clear in his writing when he tells that it is  GOD who is returning …. quote: “Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.”

These are just a few more Scriptures showing us that JESUS CHRIST is indeed, GOD.

May God bless the reading of these Scriptures and give revelation to the readers.  Amen.

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Earthquakes so strong, they actually move cities?
(To view the Original Article, click HERE)

Tariq Malik
SPACE.com Managing Editor
LiveScience.com Tariq Malik
space.com Managing Editor
livescience.com
Thu Jun 24, 12:16 pm ET

The powerful earthquake that struck Baja California and the southwestern United States in April actually moved an entire California border city, NASA radar images show.

Calexico, Calif., near the U.S.-Mexico border, moved as much as 2 1/2 feet (80 cm) south and down into the ground due to the magnitude-7.2 earthquake on April 4.

Called the El Mayor-Cucapah earthquake, the temblor was centered 32 miles (52 km) south-southeast of Calexico and was the strongest quake to strike the region in nearly 120 years. Two people were killed and hundreds more were injured.

Shaking and moving

It’s not the first time a town has moved. The massive 8.8-magnitude earthquake that struck Chile earlier this year moved the city of Concepción at least 10 feet (3 meters) to the west. That quake was the fifth most powerful temblor in recorded history.

Another example of how quakes move as well as shake: In the 6.9-magnitude 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake, which occurred along the San Andreas Fault in southern California, the Pacific plate moved 6.2 feet (about 2 m) to the northwest and 4.3 feet (1.3 m) upward over the North American plate.

Over the long run, earthquakes and shifting fault lines remake the planet. The slip-sliding motion of the San Andreas fault causes San Francisco to move toward Los Angeles at the rate of about 2 inches a year – the same pace at which your fingernails grow. The cities will meet in several million years. (California won’t fall into the sea, however.)

Powerful earthquakes can also shift the Earth’s axis, changing the length of our planet’s days. The Chile quake, for example, shortened the length of an Earth day by 1.26 microseconds.

View from above

NASA discovered Calexico’s comparatively short move by making radar sweeps over the quake-affected region in a Gulfstream-III jet outfitted for science flights.

The aircraft flew 41,000 feet (12,496 meters) above the fault system responsible for the earthquake and recorded how the quake deformed the Earth’s surface using the Uninhabited Aerial Vehicle Synthetic Aperture Radar (UAVSAR) developed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

“UAVSAR’s unprecedented resolution is allowing scientists to see fine details of the Baja earthquake’s fault system activated by the main quake and its aftershocks,” said JPL’s Scott Hensley, UAVSAR principal investigator at JPL, in a statement. “Such details aren’t visible with other sensors.” [Radar image of shifted earth]

The biggest land shift caused by the April 4 earthquake was also about 10 feet (3 m). But that occurred well south of the Mexican border, beyond the reach of NASA’s airborne radar flight campaign. Radar instruments on Japanese and European satellites, however, managed to record those effects, researchers said.

NASA has been using the radar system to map the San Andreas fault system in California from San Francisco to the Mexico border since spring 2009. The April 4 quake observations came during a campaign that ran between October 2009 and April 13, project officials said.

“The goal of the ongoing study is to understand the relative hazard of the San Andreas and faults to its west like the Elsinore and San Jacinto faults, and capture ground displacements from larger quakes,” explained JPL geophysicist Andrea Donnellan, who leads the UAVSAR project to track seismic hazards in Southern California.

The El Mayor-Cucapah earthquake caused substantial damage when it struck. Since then, there have been thousands of aftershocks along related fault lines, including a magnitude-5.7 one on the Elsinore fault on June 14.

NASA researchers are currently working to determine how far north the fault rupture that caused the quake may have reached.

“Continued measurements of the region should tell us whether the main fault rupture has moved north over time,” Donnellan said.

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Zechariah 14 tells of another stronger Earthquake, which will take place at the arrival of Jesus Christ on earth:

3Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle. 4On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquakea in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.

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Quotes Made On The Lakeland Stage
May 13, 2008

Todd Bentley:

The Lord told me this anointing was very CONTAGIOUS and we are to give it away to the world; leaders are to take this back to their nations and the anointing would be very transferable

BOBBY CONNORS:

YOU CAN CATCH THE ANOINTING

Trevor Baker from England: This really is TRANSFERABLE

Todd Bentley: this is TRANSFERABLE; Catch the anointing IN THE AIR; it will fall on you …

{My Thoughts:  There is not one bible verse that I can find which tells us the anointing can be ‘caught’; the anointing and the gifts of the spirit are transferred by the “laying on of hands” but even knowing this Bible doctrine we are “not (to) be hasty in the laying on of hands,” 1 Timothy 5:25}
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Bob Jones:  

And an angel appeared to me, told me to get Paul Keith (here tomorrow) and Ken Maddock, Bobby Connors … the HEALING ANGEL, called “WINDS OF CHANGE ” appeared to me …. And there are THREE powerful angels here; Emma, means healing, and another called Grace, and “Winds of Change”   …

so I RELEASED MY ANGELS TO HIM …….this man from Canada (Todd Bentley) ASKED FOR MY ANGELS; this “Winds of Change” is the most powerful …. Except for the arch angels, this ‘Winds of Change’, this is the most powerful angel. …. To blow away stupor, fog; get glory of god on you. So the faith of god will work thru you. It’s not that hard to understand …

 

{My Thoughts:  I cannot find female Angels mentioned in the Bible and I cannot find one Scripture teaching us to RELEASE our Angels to anyone}
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Todd:  

… so we’ve had revival, now this is maturity, Glory. A PORTAL OPEN THAT WILL NEVER BE CLOSED ??

Bob Jones

right; this will never quit; the church is changing, Winds of Change.

As I watch you, you VIBRATE. You know there are 2 PORTALS, clock wise and counter clock wise …. When you VIBRATE clock-wise, you close demonic portals … Counter clock wise vibration is demonic.

The VIBRATION IS HEALING. Does it seems peculiar? (Bob waves his hands over / to the crowd) … I’m releasing it to you

TODD: 

Let’s pray right now. Pray for MULTIPLICATION for this. Touch your computer screen. There is a glory here and a prophetic word. In the wind is the VIBRATION, the Winds of Change. And in the WIND IS THE HEALING OF GOD.  Just ASK GOD FOR THE VIBRATION NOW.  And Bob Jones will IMPART the VIBRATION right now. (Todd’s head shaking all around) … How many want this change? Bob Jones is a seer, prophet. You have to hear with your spirit. There is a PORTAL here that will never close. Thank you lord. We release it tonight in the name of Jesus.

{My Thoughts:   Portals and specific Geographical Locations are not taught to be sought after, anywhere in the Bible; God does not limit Himself to one specific location, where carnal believers and the unsaved would set up altars and worship the location more than God Himself … even as the Apostles wanted to set up altars on the Mt. of Transfiguration after Christ’s transformation where the voice of God was heard; rather the Kingdom of God is “WITHIN” US.    ALSO

VIBRATION is a blatant occult teaching;

According to the book “Spellworks for Covens,” energy from the witch’s body also has a vibration — both a physical rate of vibration and a spiritual rate of vibration. During power-raising rituals, witches believe that the molecules from both their physical and spiritual sides meld together to increase their overall energy and create a pathway for energy to flow through them. In order not to deplete their own personal energy stores, they can also pull energy from the Earth and sky.

{Found: http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:zi8kcStFGb4J:people.howstuffworks.com/witchcraft3.htm+body+vibrating+wicca&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a }

ALSO:

Whether you believe in the wiccan philosophy or not, these “spells” or mantras may … Move your hand in a counter-clockwise motion over the area and say: …

{Found at: http://www.ehow.com/how_2283655_use-wiccan-spell-better-health.html }

SEE ALSO:

pendulum healing therapy as taught here

http://www.pendulumhealing.com/pendulums.htm

Quote from “Pendulum Healing”:

As you pick up the pendulum, the most common response is a circling movement, either clockwise or counter-clockwise as shown above on the right. It is important to remember that the kind of movement you receive depends on the vibration you are on. A clockwise movement shows a positive energy and a counter-clockwise movement shows a negative energy.

AND:

As we can see from the Fresh Fire website (Todd’s own Canadian site) that the Counter-Clockwise Portal is not a “new” idea:

http://www.freshfire.ca/index.php?Act=read&status=prophetic&Id=38&pid=954

Todd teaches:

A demonic portal arose in 1967. My prophet friend Bob Jones describes it as a counter-clockwise portal and he says that a “death bird” came out of heaven that day … The devil tries to have his counter-clockwise portal but God has His portal and it’s clockwise! God has His timing! And today it’s time for us to open up a new clockwise portal!

{My Thoughts:   There is nothing of the Bible taught by Todd in his above quote. Christians must stick to the Bible in order to avoid deception. Going ‘beyond’ the Bible with “new” and “fresh” revelation might make one seem spiritual as they state they have “new revelation” from god or an angel however, going beyond what the Bible teaches also leads one into areas of error and deception. Colossians chapter 2 needs to be read and re-read by all who are wondering if Bentley, Lakeland, Toronto Airport Fellowship and the likes are spouting a “new revelation” from god….little “g”.}
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Why Am I Posting These Transcripts? 

I sat and watched some of the Lakeland “revival” and started transcribing each word said from the Stage, for the sake of three friends of mine who were interested in the “revival”, thinking it was actually from God and who wanted to attend the meetings.  (I continue to post them for my friends who continue to seek after these Angels and Signs and Wonders from these same teachers.)

Sometimes I wrote down the time at which the quotes were being made. Each quote will have the name of the Speaker who made the quote and the date when the original statement was made.

At the end of each Quote I make Bible References to compare the Lakeland Quote with what the Bible teaches, at other times I quote wicca / satanic teachings which show the similar or same teachings being promoted by occultists as was taught on the Lakeland Stage.

I am Posting the transcriptions so the body of Christ can see exactly, word for word, what the Preachers of Lakeland preach, teach and believe.

As a quick reminder:

If you know the Truth and want to stand for it, you must be able to do so “gently”. Unkind, rude remarks will be pulled off this Blog. In ALL areas of our lives we must believe and obey the Bible which teaches:

2 Timothy 2 –

23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant MUST NOT QUARREL; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Those who oppose him he must GENTLY INSTRUCT, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
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It is with sadness that I report that Che Ahn, and his Harvest Rock church, are once again putting on another “Prophetic Conference” advertising that “the first 250 registrants will receive a personal prophetic session.”   Here is a screen shot of his ad:

Che Ahn also advertised this for his January 2010 conference.

I will again post Scriptures below, which show that Christians will NOT prophecy at their own will … which is what Che Ahn is advertising and offering.  He is stating that his staff will prophecy at will, at a time that they have determined, and in the place that they have chosen, over the first 250 registrants.

This boils down to Fortune Telling.  And I have been told by some, who have gone to Che Ahn’s “prayer rooms”, that the “prayer rooms” indeed have the “air” of Fortune Telling.

Praise the Lord, these particular people listened to the Holy Spirit inside of them, telling them that something was “off”.

Since Che Ahn is not seeing the error of his ways in this particular situation, I post the below Scriptures for the Body of Christ to read, ponder, and obey lest they be caught up in the deception of allowing people to lay hands on them to prophecy at will.

Please, people of God, “Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth” – 2 Timothy 2:15.  Think about the below Scriptures.  Don’t toss them off as “old revelation”, but believe God AT HIS WORD.

What does the Bible teach us about Prophesying?

4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. … 

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another PROPHECY, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,a and to still another the interpretation of tongues.b 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, JUST AS HE DETERMINES.  …” – 1 Corinthians 12, NIV


For prophecy NEVER had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit2 Peter 1:21, NIV 

Honestly,  isn’t the advertisement that the first 250 registrants will receive a “personal prophetic session” clearly a statement that those prophesying will be doing such at their “own will”?  For they have named the place, they have named the time, they have named the ones to do the prophesying, now all you have to do is use your own will as well, and be one of the first 250 registrants.  EVERYONE INVOLVED is using his own will to give or to receive a “prophecy” !!!!!!!
And this is not Biblical, according to the Scriptures posted above!
Would you not think that the very Apostle who walked with, talked with, lived with, ate with and learned from the Written Word in the Flesh, Jesus Christ Who is also God in the flesh, should know something about prophecy?

In fact in Acts Chapter 8 we are shown that this Apostle, Peter, stated that anyone who desired such power to flow through them AT THEIR OWN WILL, is not right with God!!

9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10 and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is the divine power known as the Great Power.” 11 They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic. 12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.

14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them; they had simply been baptized intoc the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21 You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23 For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”

24 Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”

The sin that Simon was guilty of was the sin of wanting the power of God to flow through him AS HE WILLED … WHENEVER HE WANTED …  meaning, whenever HE WANTED to lay hands on people, the power of God would flow!
And the response of the Apostle Peter?
“…your money perish with you.  your heart is not right before God“.
Looking at these SCRIPTURES posted … which is what Christians are supposed to be doing (2 Timothy 2:15) … one can CLEARLY see that the Gifts of the Holy Spirit are given as HE determines, to flow through the gifted Christian WHEN HE desires.   It is not up to the Christian!  It is not as the Christian determines!  And it is not when or where the Christian wants the Spirit to flow!
And shouldn’t Christians be obeying the SCRIPTURES!?
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Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth — 2 Timothy 2:15, NASB

 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me — John 14:24, NIV

 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 – The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 – but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. — 1 John 2:3-5 NASB

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies … 3 – In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. 2 Peter 2:1

 Your word, O LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens — Psalm 119:89 NIV

the word of the Lord stands forever — 1 Peter 2:25 NIV

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