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Quote by Derek Prince

From “Uproar In The Church

One critical area for discernment is the division between that which is spiritual and that which is soulish. Unfortunately, for many English readers the reality of this division is obscured by inconsistencies in translation from the original Greek. The Greek word for “spiritual” is pneumatikos formed directly from pneuma, the word for “spirit.” Exactly corresponding, the Greek word for “soulish” is psuchikos, formed directly from psuche, the word for “soul.”

In English, pneumatikos is always translated “spiritual.” Correspondingly, the natural translation for psuchikos would be “soulish.” But since this is not a normal English word, various other words are used­e.g. “natural,” or “carnal,” or “worldly,” or “sensual.” The problem is that these different translations give the impression that different Greek words are used. They tend to obscure two facts: First, that soulish is an important and distinctive New Testament concept. Second, that the soulish and the spiritual are often in conflict with one another.

The soul is the area in which man’s natural reason and emotions function. This is quite different from the way that man’s regenerated spirit is designed to function. The contrast-and in fact, the opposition-between the two is clearly brought out in I Corinthians 2:14, 15:

  • But the natural [soulish] man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, be cause they are spiritually discerned.But he who is spiritual judges all things …

The conclusion is clear. Both the spiritual and the soulish man are found among the people of God. The spiritual man is at home in the things of the Holy Spirit and responds appropriately to them. On the other hand, the soulish man cannot apprehend the things of the Holy Spirit, but by his reaction distorts and debases them. The only instrument sharp enough and sensitive enough to distinguish between the spiritual and the soulish is the word of God.

  • For the word of God is living and powerful and sharper than any two­edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).

This is why correct discernment is possible only for Christians who have become mature through regular feeding on the “solid food” of Scripture. The failure to distinguish between the spiritual and the soulish can have disastrous consequences.

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1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth
Such men are already in the Church teaching damnable heresies, and Christian leaders and lay-people alike are unable to discern their doctrines!  This is a pitiful statement regarding the maturity, or immaturity, of the Church today! (Read some of the teachings of present day teachers in the Church in my “Lakeland-IHOP-Bentley-Bethel” Category located on the right side of this page).
It is time to wake up Church and study to make sure the End Times deception will not take us over as well!  Study to show ourselves approved unto God!
 2011 – Is Christ Soon To Return
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The June 2011 Harvest Rock Transform Your World conference is about to begin, with speakers:

Cindy Jacobs, James Goll, Jerry Anderson, Johnny Enlow,  Lance Walnou and Peter Wagner … and Che Ahn scheduled to speak at the WLI Graduation, 2:00 pm – 3:30 pm, June 4, with Peter Wagner.

Screen Shot of conference page:

But who are the speakers?  What do they believe?  Do you care?  Should you care?

Lets look at a couple of their teachings and see if such teachings can be found in the Bible … after all, Galatians 1:9 teaches us:

As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! 

So really, according to Galatians 1:9,  we SHOULD care what teachers preach.  Especially if we attend their conferences.

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CINDY JACOBS quote:

And the Lord would say I’m renewing ancient covenants … I’m calling back to ancient times when I stirred my people to take Jerusalem I’m calling out my warriors and my war horses forth.   Prophecy “One More Chance”. Dated: no date given 

Compare her “prophecy”, which God supposedly gave her, with God’s recorded written word:

For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:  “The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant … 

Hebrews is teaching us that the OLD Covenant is replaced with the NEW.  Is God changing His mind in 2011 and desiring to go back to the OLD Covenant?  Old covenants?  Old mantels?  Old ways?  NO He isn’t.  For IT IS WRITTEN: “For I am the LORD, I change not“.  Malachi 3:6

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JAMES GOLL quote:

I want to tell you a story before I pray. Twelve years ago the external, audible voice of the Lord came to me and I heard the following: I am raising up a new young champion. His name will be called Tawd. I heard it like that. I am raising up a new young champion. His name will be called Tawd. You will need his raw faith and he will need your wisdom. And so for three years – I’ve been travelling itinerantly for – I don’t know how many years in full time ministry for over thirty four years and so for three or four years around the world I have looked for Tawd and I never found a Tawd but I found several Todds and then nine years ago I ran into Bam Bam {Todd Bentley} and I knew Bam Bam was Tawd because he had raw faith. But the thing that’s interesting is that it was twelve years ago that Todd surrendered and gave himself to full time ministry and left the sawmill and that was exactly when the voice of the Lord came to me and said: I am raising up a new young champion. His name will be called Tawd.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hiyfOmtGs4. Dated: 27th September 2008

Would GOD raise up a man for His people, named Todd or any other name, who would teach things contrary to Scripture?  No, God would not.  But another god would.

Todd has said:  “In my ministry, I teach my disciples, “Power first, then the Word. Go in and prophesy first, or demonstrate the power of God first in some way.”

Book: by Todd Bentley entitled: The Reality of the Supernatural World, Destiny Image, Inc., p. 72 Published: June 2008. 

BUT GOD SAYS: “for you have magnified your word above all your namePsalm 138:2.  The Word FIRST, Christians.  All other words should be tested against God’s Word!

Todd also says:  “Some places, because of their spiritual history, are noted to be locations where people will often experience an open heaven. In fact, there are places where the heavens are open more than in other places. Most of you are familiar with previous moves of God in places such as Toronto (The Toronto Blessing), the meetings in Pensacola, and Argentina, just to name a few. Just like in Jacob’s day, today, there are certain places where heaven is open, geographical locations where you are more likely to have an encounter with God.Source here on the Internet. Dated: 2003.

The idea that there is an “Open Heaven” is nowhere to be found in New Testament theology.  WE are the temple of the Living God.  God dwells in us, and where we go, God is right there!   “For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”  2 Cor 6:16

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JOHNNY ENLOW quote:

“You {Jesus} will remain up here as the Head, and Your body on Earth will crush your enemies. The last generation will be the ‘foot’ generation and will rule on Earth over Your enemies… until she has accomplished this crushing of Satan”   Book: by Johnny Endlow entitled: The Seven Mountain Prophecy: Unveiling the Coming Elijah Revolution pp 23-24 Published: November 2008.

But is this what God says about the last generation and/or the End Times?

Look at what the Word of God states, saints.  IT IS WRITTEN: “The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.”  1 Timothy 4:1  Now where in the New Testament is it taught that the church in the latter days, will be a powerful army, conquering the earth and crushing satan.  Read the book of Revelation to be reminded Who conquers satan!  “1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.”  Revelation 20:1,2

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LANCE WALNOU quote: 

… and what happens is: if God’s people can sufficiently shift the atmosphere in the heavens and create a tipping point on the earth, which means that a sufficient number of key people coming under the power of God, so that the leverage of the kingdom starts to pick up. Now what happens is the earth that has been under a curse gets liberated and delivered – like casting demons out. When something gets cast out of the earth and when the earth and its inhabitants are walking in alignment with God then heaven comes down and covers over that place …  Source here on the Internet. Dated: 11th September 2008.

Oh brother.  God’s people shifting the atmosphere in the heavens?  No where is any such thing mentioned anywhere in the Bible.  It is NOT written.  And it is pride speaking.

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C. PETER WAGNER quote:

And now God can trust us with assignments of spiritual warfare that he was not able to entrust us before. So that’s why spiritual warfare is so important now. Probably ten years ago we would not have had a seminar on spiritual warfare. Because God has brought to a place where he could trust us with that.

So, it seems that Christians just weren’t spiritual enough 10 yrs ago to embrace the spiritual warfare teachings that this crew teaches today.  I wonder if the Apostle Paul, or Apostle Peter, or if any other of the Apostles were spiritual enough, because they did not teach ANYTHING like what Peter Wagner states is spiritual warfare (ie: spiritual mapping).  Source here on the Internet. Dated: 16th October 2009.

C. Peter Wagner is a false teacher who teaches Christians methods to fight demons, which were never revealed in God’s Holy Word.

And Cindy Jacobs considers Peter Wagner her spiritual dad.  See below quote:

Peter Wagner is really – my spiritual dad – … he is very much like a dad. I call him my dad . . .  Source from a tape: aired on Sky Angel TV, USA Dated: 29th May 1999 

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So, there you have just SOME of the teachings of the teachers who will be teaching at Che Ahn’s Harvest Rock, “Transform Your World” June 2011 Conference.

Is it worth paying  “$65/person or $120/married couple” for false teachings? 

You can get the Word of God for FREE on the Internet and it will actually save your soul and truly transform your world

The $65 / $120, on the other hand,  could end up actually costing you a LOT more … if you become totally engulfed in their deception and find yourself in Hell. 

To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.  John 8:31
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.   John 1:1

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